I've had and tried some cannondales and I can honestly say they they were all pretty disappointing. I like the brand and owned more than one bike from them because when you look at the bikes they really look like they are going to be great performers, but at the end all the ones I've owned and tried are way to optimised to pedal and going uphill and when you start going downhill they just don't work as good as other brands like Intense, giant, santa cruz, etc... it is a shame because I like the brand and the build quality they have is on the higher level.
I demoed the new Jekyl, and in the 130mm travel it felt pretty good; like a standard (albeit very slack) 130mm trail bike. However, in the 160mm mode, it didn't really feel any different. I think its partly to blame on the float X shock; every time I've ridden one it feels just like a regular float. That 160mm of travel wasn't plush or 'deep', it just felt like a trail bike with a little more travel. I also think the chainstays are too short for a 160mm enduro sled; for a shorter travel, more playful and trail oriented bike its fine, but the Jekyl is billed as an enduro machine. It did climb very well though
While I'm not disagreeing with you, I have never owned a bike that didn't disappoint me in someway. I dont believe in the one quiver mindset (even though my bank account says otherwise), nor do I believe there is a perfect geometry. Ive owned cannondales and many other brands that stood out in someways and let me down on the rest. My last trigger was definitely the most capable bike in every sense that I have ever owned. I would never say it was a race winner but It pedaled well, it descended well, traveled from flat xc east coast, to mountainous west coast without a problem. I started to ride more Freeride so I upgraded to a longer travel more slack rig, That said, if I could afford a quiver, the trigger would be in there if i had no idea where my ride was going to take me.
I demoed their older 650b jekyl at deer valley down some pretty knarly trails, and despite its 'dated' geometry I thought it rode better than this new one. Once again, however, I think this new one suffers from the float x being a sub-par shock. Its not like I had it set up poorly; theres just preload and rebound to adjust.
I´m a happy owner of a new 2018 Jekyll and the bike is really good for me. Very capable downhill,it can handle DH lines no drama,it´s light and reasonable priced over SC,Intense....I got mine for 3300€,Jekyll 3 acid red. Big wheels,carbon frame,good slx brakes,xt cassette,nothing fancy but all works in harmony. My last bike was 26 Jekyll,it feels way different than the new bike but if I must to chose one I take the new one no question. Big 2.5 WT wheel is hard to pedal in flat or uphill,but I don´t care about pedal if the bike is really good at downhill. The new Jekyll is a mix of Mondraker geo but short rear end,the bike is agile and for me,any drama at high speed. Whit 3300 € in a SC store maybe you get a hardtail and a few stickers,at Intense store maybe only you can afford the stickers....
@gnrendeiro you are up for a very nice surprise then with the new Jekyll and Trigger bikes. Properly set up they're pure fun machines and the travel just feels like it's endless, especially with the Jekyll. The super slack angles combined with the short chain stays are a crazy combination that make the bike go down steep slopes like nothing while still cornering in a super fast. I tried the Jekyll in Finale Ligure, then rode the Trigger on my home trails in Switzerland. They're both extremely capable, though I finally chose the Trigger just because I felt I didn't need as much travel as the Jekyll could offer in most situations, and on most trails. Choose the Jekyll and you can almost get rid of your downhill bike. Anyway...just my fine cents
I've got a handmade-in-the-USA Cannondale track bike. It's everything a bike should be - the essence of simplicity. The current road bikes are the same - some of the best you can get; and CAAD 10 - 12 are alloy bikes that many roadies actually prefer to carbon bikes. And I'm all for Cannondale's mad scientist approach to mountain bikes. I think mountain biking needs companies willing to have hits and misses like Cannondale appears to. But it might be a tough sell given how many options are out there now - particularly in this price range. And even from US manufacturers.
@TinuKu: I choose Jekyll and yes, it´s like DH bike from years ago. I sold my DH bike 4 years ago but always riding other DH bikes in that period. I choose the Jekyll cos I ride mostly uplift( work as MTB guide),yes is more sluggish than previous Jekyll iterations on flat or uphill. It corners like a dream,tight sections I never been able to nail now I´m ripping those corners. My only concern is about how fox 36 forks feels,not 100% dialed and on the stiff side even whit more than 30% sag. MRP ramp control is on the way and maybe an Avalache DH Racing custom cartridge. For me great bike and great overall value.
@TinuKu: Thanks for your feedback, maybe one day I'll try one but in my place there aren't many opportunities to try new bikes and I've always had to buy my bikes in order to try them (I buy second hand though, my bank account won't let me do it otherwise) so I'm not sure when I'll be able to try the jekkyl. I'm now running two Intense Uzzi VP (oldschool geometry), one with 26'' and the other with 650b'' (with the G3 dropouts you can run 650b wheels on that bike in the longer position) and I'm very satisfied with them. It pedals really good and when pointing down... well, let's just say the VPP is always very reliable.
I rode the Trigger 1 some days ago on an enduro stage with 700 height meters up and down. It pedals really good, you can change the geo from the habdlebar and in addition move the ctd switch on the shock, you might not want to switch all the time but for long climbs it is golden. Going down was a lot of fun, suspension feels very supple and the small bump compliance ist great compared to my bronson 1. its a very fun bike to ride efficient agile but can still take some roots and stones I was really impressed.
To bo honest, the rider looks like a bad ass rider with some very nice skills and all, but it seems a bit like the bike doesn't really help him with anything. Like he just rides through stuff without any particulary fun-factor or race-factor.
I hope it's somewhere in the 4k price range and not shooting for the stars or anything.
Rode a Trigger at a recent demo day... nice bike, pedaled better than expected and was nicely finished. Maybe a little busy in the cockpit with levers for brakes, shifter, dropper, hustle/flow mode...
I had a 2016 Trigger 29er carbon. I cracked the frame 2 times in one year. Trust me, the frame is not strong at all. The front wheel is weighted down way too much! forget about doing wheelies or manuals. Thus, it was dangerous to jump because the bike was not balanced properly. If you stay on the ground all the time: no problem. Also, bike was too plush for my taste. No support during takeoff on a jump. Had to clean out the main pivot every three rides because of excessive creaking when it got a little dirty. Good side is that the bike is very fast uphill and sprinting. Control on downhill was below average. Just keeping it real. Short story. I would only by another cannondale if it was the last bike on the planet.
I purchase a new Jekyll and the bike is awesome. Old Jekyll is very different, I have 26" inch version too and the are like day and night,water vs oil...My old Jekyll was alloy,it has thousands of DH km over 4 years,like 50 small paint dents in the down tube but 0 alloy dents or cracks,I put some needle bearings in the Dyad and is still strong (You can´t trust FOX or a regular guy to make maintenance on the shock,mine it´s dialed whit thinner oil and a custom plastic O ring who makes very difficult to unbalance the 3 chambers). New bike is more conventional,no weird things but it works really great,it looks awesome,L size for 180cm guy is very roomy. It feels really plush and agile.
And I'm all for Cannondale's mad scientist approach to mountain bikes. I think mountain biking needs companies willing to have hits and misses like Cannondale appears to. But it might be a tough sell given how many options are out there now - particularly in this price range. And even from US manufacturers.
Next up: a full, uninterrupted pull up Cyn Acres.
New bike is more conventional,no weird things but it works really great,it looks awesome,L size for 180cm guy is very roomy. It feels really plush and agile.
Did the solo rides start around the same time as you got a cannondale?