Cane Creek Announces 165mm eeWings, eeWings Raven & Color Anodized Preloaders
PRESS RELEASE: Cane Creek - Fletcher, NC USA
We are excited to announce the latest addition to the family of critically-acclaimed eeWings titanium cranks - eeWings Raven
The eeWings Raven are constructed of the same high-grade titanium as traditional eeWings, painted deep black with a premium automotive-style paint, affixed with a water-transfer decal “W” logo and then clear coated with a high-gloss protective finish.
Finished with a high-gloss protective coat for durability
eeWings Raven
• Grade 9 Ti-3Al-2.5V titanium crank arms
• Grade 5 Ti-6Al-4V titanium spindle, Hirth joint, chainring interface, pedal inserts
• 30mm titanium spindle w/ Hirth joint
• BB compatibility: BSA 73mm, PF92, PF89.5, BB30, PF30, 392EVO
• Chainring compatibility: X-Sync
• Lengths: 170mm, 175mm
• Weight: 400-grams (arms, spindle, preload assembly, fastening bolt and washer, 1.75mm spacer)
• MSRP: $1049 USD
• Grade 9 Ti-3Al-2.5V titanium crank arms
• Grade 5 Ti-6Al-4V titanium spindle, Hirth joint, chainring interface, pedal inserts
• 30mm titanium spindle w/ Hirth joint
• BB compatibility: BSA 73mm, PF92, PF89.5, BB30, PF30, 392EVO
• Chainring compatibility: X-Sync
• Lengths: 170mm, 175mm
• Weight: 400-grams (arms, spindle, preload assembly, fastening bolt and washer, 1.75mm spacer)
• MSRP: $1049 USD
Though durable, as is common of almost any bicycle part, the paint on the eeWings Raven can be expected to chip, scratch and wear over time with use. The amount and timeframe of this wear will vary depending on care, riding condition and the amount of riding you do. We recommend using the included protective film to ensure that the paint on the eeWings Raven lasts as long as possible.
If the prospect of chips, scratches and wear over time is an issue, we suggest customers choose the original eeWings instead. Their natural brushed finish is far more robust and can be easily refinished.
In addition to the eeWings Raven, we are happy to announce that eeWings Mountain cranks are now available in 165mm in their original brushed titanium finish and that the Cane Creek preloader is now available in a variety of anodized color options.
eeWings Raven are available for mountain at 170mm and 175mm arm lengths and for all-road at 170mm arm length. Both road and mountain cranks retail for $1049. 165mm eeWings Mountain cranks retail for $999 and are only available in the original brushed-titanium finish. The Cane Creek Preloader is currently available in orange, red, green, blue and the original black and retails for $29.
All three products are available now through Cane Creek distributors and retailers or rider-direct in North America through www.canecreek.com
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Oh wait...all Kooka cranks break. That was truly 90s!!! Blazing bright as they shear off and murder you
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While Taiwan has amazing skills at working with the material, they are blessed to not have to worry about the EPA, OSHA, and on and on and on. More info and what not can be found on Seven's site -
www.sevencycles.com/buildingbike/techsupplement/ti.php
lynskeyperformance.com/fatskey-mountain-bike-frame
Fabrication of that frame would entail far more Ti raw stock, machining and welding than a single crankset, and AFAIK Lynskey frames are made in the US. Seems like eeWings cranks just have a heavy mtb luxury markup.
I really like those Ti cranks, just a bit too much for an Asian made crank. It's too bad Lynskey doesn't make a Ti crank because at the time of ordering my bike and with the at the time 30% coupon code, I upgraded to their Ti stem and seatpost. The 30% coupon sure helped to offset the terrible Canadian/American exchange rate.
Agreed, I9 should make some USA built cranks like Hope is offering, I feel like this would sell well?
#THELAZYDURMERICANWAY
The decision to paint these doesn’t seem like a good one.
I know Ti is a pricey metal, but that still seems kinda stiff.
Hard to pony up that much cash when for 1/3 the price you can get carbon, and for 1/6 the price you can get aluminum.
I have a Ti muni Frame, custom built, and it cost half as much....
Out of curiousity, what made you go the custom route? I've got a simple KH24 and to me it seems like there aren't many variables to mess with. I do ride a steel mountainbike hardtail and I indeed thought a steel (or titanium) MUni frame could be more comfortable, but Kris Holm claims it doesn't matter much because of the way the frame pivots around the axle.
Might have to actually pull the trigger now
It's about time.
Desirability is objective and multifaceted. Why are they desirable ie. What reasons.
Speaking from a person who is a tech geek and lives to ride, a dollar figure is simply that. Can I have something that performs the same? Probably. I can have something that weighs the same... also probably. Can I have something with the same lifespan and performance? Probably not. You have 3 options always. Cheap, light, and good. Pick two. You may not pay $1000+ for a set of cranks, but I've broken 3 sets of carbon cranks in the past year. Yes warranty is great, but snapping a set of cranks sucks period. Aluminum cranks have an inherent flex to them. Cant say they perform the same or weigh the same. Maybe these have flex too... I dunno, I dont own them. But when they start making a DH rated crank.... Ahem, i said WHEN THEY START MAKING A DH RSTED CRANK!!... Are you listening cane creek?
Anyways, ultimately what i want and what i need might be differant than you and so on and so forth. Reality is, people are buying these... no question. As for who? Who cares... Could be you though
- i would need a nice titanium frame to go with them (some are close to the price of these cranks, i know, but still)
- taking a look at how the cranks on my bikes look after a year of use...i just couldn't ride them anywhere else then onroad with my feet all the way on the outside of the pedals the prevent my shoes touching them. Not even speeking of the rock strikes all over them...
I think I'll keep admiring them pretend my old XT's are basically the same, even if they are not.
check these if you´re stuck. Patented collet design works well.
Shimano BBs on the other hand have been cheap bulletproof, both threaded and PF. So maybe my issue is not with 24 vs. 30mm but rather Shimano vs. non-shimano. I have admittedly not fully controlled this experiment.
So more of an excuse, not to buy, how about just find a way to make them at a more reasonable price?
I'd understand a Ti frame. Ti spokes. Maybe Ti spindle... But the whole crankset?
Because you don't want a noodle as a crank so choosing a material with poor stiffness to weight ratio is not something expected. "because why not" is a good argument for home made bike parts, not parts coming from a "big" brand. The best solution yet for a crank is the aluminium/steel axle humble solution as it's strong (durable), light, and stiff (and more or less cheap). Going to carbon can be a ok solution if you have higher than average quality standards.
Titanium for cranks is as good as gold plated. It's pretty and expensive but it can't be more useless here. So good of a choice the Chinese made cranks are selling for 1000$, providing no more than an XTR crankset would.
ti frame, spokes can add compliance. Ti spindle is lighter than steel and nearly as durable, without losing too much stiffness. Ti springs aren't even competitive with light steel ones. ti crankset? Marketing solution aimed at those people with too much money.
That being said, compliance is a relative term. Carbon is inherently stiff, yet manipulation of design profiles can allow it to flex to a desirable level.
Steel does this too. Aluminum is not stiffer than steel or titanium by volume.
It is however much lighter, and therefore can be designed to be stiffer.
That being said, one argument I will make is this..in order to produce an allot crank, it needs to be done with a stiffer alloy than what your average frame material would be made of. One challenge of this, is it must be machined as the majority of these alloys are not weldable.
In turn what's produced is a heavily machined crank that they aim to provide stiffness. An alloy crank however is still noticeably more flexible than its carbon counterpart.
Now I'm not saying that these cranks in question are stiffer or stronger because I've never ridden them. I have picked them up, and they are crazy light.
What I am saying however, is because you can weld titanium, you have more avenues in architecture than alloy.
Reality is, producing a Ti crank at alloy weight could be stiffer than the competing alloy crank with more reliability than the carbon counterpart.
So let’s recap:
* way too expensive for most people so wait until you can get yours on a discount (got mine with stacked 20% off coupons).
* lighter than aluminum, on par with carbon
* more durable than aluminum or carbon
* stiffer than aluminum and carbon
If you are seeking a stiff part, it's the stiffness to weight ratio that is more useful (along with others), and then Ti isn't wonderful anymore as it's in the same spot as any metal, maybe a bit less stiff.
There is no "stiffer" aluminium. They are all pretty much the same. 2% more won"t change my life. You can use weldable aluminium for cranks. Thing is, no one does as it's waaay cheaper/easier/quicker to forge then machine a crank arm, than it it to weld it. Shimano does make some bonded hollow cranks (ultrega and I think XTR are like that). sub 300$ XTR would be a horrific 40g heavier once the chainring is installed. Probably as durable. And probably as stiff, too (needs data to back up any claims here...).
Carbon crakns can be as wonderful as you can imagine, as carbon do wonders... but it's a complex material that require a really good quallity assurance. And I doubt there is any brand in bike world that have the quality requirement of carbon. Issue is, on of the parts made could be awesome. Next one in the row would be a turd. Carbon has it's own story there.
I can't use your experience, sorry.
I've put contextual effect in test in mtb world. There is no way you can use datas from rider's input.
an exemple is the FOX 36, everyone riding it "it's the stiffest fork in the world". German magazines: "it's a noodle, see, 30% less tiff than any other fork".
I've done "blind" tests with some riders, concerning wheels stiffness. No one could tel witch was the stiffest. worse, if I tell someone "this one is so stiff it will be painful to ride", they actually tells me I was right... even if I didn't change anything but the stickers.
So, I'd need to put a crankset on a torture bench and see results. Or see results by other people if they exist.
I really doubt you can do stiffer crankset in titanium than aluminium, and it's not even believable that carbon can't do better (even if I don't really like carbon at all). and this one isn't wide enough to compensate for ti's lack of stiffness. I don't know if the Sixc are quite stiff or the opposite, tho.
And, it cost 1000 f**ing dollars. three time or more than an XTR. And not made in expensivistan. Because Ti is blingbling, and a small part of the extra price is due tu Ti being a pain to manufacture. I don't think there is a single real argument to justify Ti here, really.
No differant than carbon cranks. I've broken many many pairs. But who's to say that somebody isnt gonna get it right one of these days. Time will tell, and the issue is not material (in most cases) its architecture and application.
While you sit on the pessimistic side of things, and others sit on the optimistic side of things. I'm gonna sit my ass smack dab in the center, because I have yet to test for myself.
Btw, the 36 is noodley compared to the Lyrik. It is obvious on tougher tracks on the North Shore and Whistler. It pings and twangs around whereas the Lyrik doesn’t exhibit this behaviour. This also shows in Pinkbike’s drop to flat tests. I have a 2019 36 Factory, a 2020 Lyrik Ultimate and a 2019 Helm and the differences in chassis stiffness between them is noticeable when riding hard. I guess most aren’t tall and heavy enough to notice.
I'm not buying it. All you have to do is run this little experiment with any bike and it's very obvious that most of the flex is coming from the frame
"Do this with any bike" I did it on the same bike with two different cranks so it's clearly a difference between the two cranks..... Did you not see the part where I said "it's not the frame doing ALL the flexing"?
But meh...you do you...
XTR 9000 was a noodle compared to 980 or 9100. For 9100 they've added material and more importantly, they have a larger cross-section especially near the spindle.
...JK, I cant afford these cranks.