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Intend Suspension – Bike Festival Riva, 2017

May 2, 2017
by Paul Aston  
Intend single crown USD fork



Remember Cornelius Kapfinger? Easily the man with the best name in the entire mountain bike industry. Well, he has finished working at Trickstuff and is now focusing more on building his own suspension forks and stems.

He currently has a single crown upside down fork and a dual crown downhill version. He also has an insanely lightweight stem and intends on creating some more products in the future. The forks are built to order and have a three month lead time, price starting at €1600


Intend Edge Details:

• Adjustable travel, max. 176mm
• Open bath cartridge
• Tapered wall thickness
• Air spring
• Made to order, three months lead time
• 1,900g
• Made in Germany
• €1,600 (approx. $1,743 USD)
• Intend on Facebook

A single crown upside down fork is going to be insanely flexy? Well, in a lab test the mono crown Intend Edge proved to be more torsionally stiff than a dual crown Manitou Dorado, although less than most other conventional forks on test, including a Fox 36, RockShox Lyrik, Formula, Ohlins etc. But, and this is a big one, front to rear stiffness the Edge was much more than all of the competition. The argument comes down to this—do you want your fork to flex back and forth under load and bind through the travel, or be stiff in corners and when trying to track the ground? Remember when Nico Vouilloz was seen riding a Fox 40 with the crown cut off to get more torsional flex?


Intend single crown USD fork
Carbon guards to protect the gold stanchions.


The Edge is also said to be the lightest fork in class, at 1,945 grams, although that comes at a price, literally, at €1,600.

The travel is adjustable from 0mm to 176mm in 10mm increments, simply by adding or subtracting Igus bushings into the air spring. Why would you use a bushing for this? Kapfinger says they were simply the cheapest plastic discs he could find, and are fairly light.


Intend Suspension
One white Igus bushing can be seen on the air spring assembly. You can also see into the open bath cartridge on the clear demonstration leg.


The open bath oil damper is "impossible to explode," and the compression shims can be changed by the user. Simply flip the fork upside down, open the cap and switch the shims, when the fork is righted to the correct way, the oil will self-regulate itself.


Intend Suspension


Trickstuff s Direttissima has been updated with a tool-free reach adjust.

Intend Infinity Details:

• Adjustable travel, max. 206mm
• Open bath cartridge
• Tapered wall thickness
• Air spring
• Made to order, three months lead time
• 2330g
• Made in Germany
• €1,899 (approx. $2,072 USD)
• Intend on Facebook


The Infinity fork is just a longer dual crown version of the Edge, with up to 206mm travel. The steerer tube-less design has to work with a certain headtube length, there is some space to change to move but swapping from a bike with an 80mm headtube length to a 140mm isn't going to happen. A long bolt threads in from the lower crown to the upper crown to preload the headset. Both forks also used vegetable-based fluid instead of oil based products.

Intend intend to send us a fork for testing this summer, expect a full review later this year.


Intend Suspension
Who needs a steerer tube anyway?
Intend Suspension
Direct mount stem drillings.


Intend Suspension
20mm 4DH4Lyfe. Luckily, using a one-piece bolt-on brake mount means Boost or non-Boost hubs can be used without having to buy an entirely new fork.


Intend Grace En stem
The Intend stem has four bolts, is 35mm long and works with 31.8mm handlebars.


Intend also makes this crazy light stem. 35mm long, with a 31.8mm diameter. The Grace EN weighs in at 77 grams including the Ti bolts. Due to the two bolt bar clamp, you need the 'wooden spoon' tool (included) to lever open the clamp slightly, the outer edges of the stem are chamfered to 30º to help the bar slide in. Yours from a limited run of 25 units for €139.


Intend Grace En stem


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177 Comments
  • 112 5
 "Intend intend to send us a fork"

I'm so glad the author didn't pass up that chance at wordplay. Bravo.
  • 11 0
 Self-regulate itself.
  • 4 1
 At 176mm travel I bet they intend to edge out endurbo and bring back freeride.
  • 7 0
 @Boardlife69: Where did it go? Most Enduro-Level bikes now smoke anything back in the heyday of Freeride tanks. Who says you can't ride 'freeride' style anymore?
  • 45 1
 No steerer actually makes sense- the bearing surfaces are at the top & bottom of the headset only, the rest isn't doing anything. No more star nut, ever. Worth it right there.
  • 11 13
 What about headset preload adjusting?
  • 22 0
 @nozes They explained that a bolt runs between the crowns for that
  • 11 1
 @natemeyer: I've missed that part. Thanks!
  • 5 9
flag anotherstoneinthewoods (May 2, 2017 at 14:52) (Below Threshold)
 @nozes: did you read the whole paragraph. It states how this is achieved on this fork.
  • 19 8
 People used to run an Azonic (I think) headset preload system in the early 2000's that had a long bolt going up the bottom like this. When the bolt would loosen, it would fall down into the tire and stop the front wheel instantly, nearly killing the rider....
  • 17 2
 @parallaxid: sounds more like an urban legend.
  • 8 0
 @parallaxid: I remember these, as soon as I saw it I thought of them. They worked fine from my memory though.
  • 12 1
 @parallaxid: Ever heard of Loctite, have you?
  • 7 0
 I See Fox and/or RS "borrowing" this idea within a year Wink
  • 1 0
 The maverick DUC used a steerer tubeless design with a bolt.
  • 3 0
 @parallaxid: Because they were using them wrongly.

The idea was to use the tool to tension the front end up, tighten the stem onto the fork steerer tube, *then remove the tool*.

I used it for years - no problems at all, and being able to get rid of the star-fangled nut meant that swapping forks in and out became MUCH more straightforward.
  • 49 5
 1900g for the DH fork? That's 4.2lbs... Is that a typo cause otherwise, damn. Eek
  • 13 1
 That's what I was thinking. That is a pound and a half less than the lightest dual crown forks on the market . . (Fox 40 = 5.7, Boxxer WC = 5.8 )
  • 15 1
 The single crown is the same weight, surely its a copy and paste thing? Not sure how much a steerer weighs....trying to get my head around that.
  • 3 1
 @russthedog: I think you are right.
  • 4 1
 Both forks are listed at 1900 grams so I assume that is the Edge's weight?

Although without a steer tube I bet that dual crown is pretty light as well.
  • 24 1
 Googling around a bit there's a picture of the dual crown Intend Infinity fork on a scale at 2330gr or 5.1 lbs.
  • 17 0
 @LTTO: If true that is still 1/2 a pound lighter than the 40. Impressive.
  • 1 4
 ????
  • 11 11
 @Arnoodles its for compensating the added weight of 29" rims and tires Big Grin
  • 67 3
 "The only performance criteria that seem to drive the bicycle industry is weight. Yet we still have no sport where the lightest bike wins, so why are we doing that? Why are we obsessed with weight in this industry, because having the lightest bike doesn't win you anything. It's nonsense."

Christ Porter
  • 56 0
 @otto99: I'm interested in that vegetable-based damping fluid... if you get lost in the woods you can find some dandelion greens and have yourself a side salad. Basically turns Whistler into one big paleo friendly feed bin.
  • 3 0
 @maxlombardy:totes
  • 4 0
 @maxlombardy: I heard that you can use leftover wpl 20wt if you ran out of cooking oil...



Disclaimer: Do not try this at home.
  • 1 0
 @otto99: Thank you - how about that thing inside? Is that important haha
  • 3 0
 Its 1900€ and 2300g.
  • 5 1
 @otto99: Nino Schurter begs to differ....
  • 11 3
 @otto99: it's an industry gimmick to give a quantifiable "improvement" over previous or existing product. Stiffness is subjective, and BS claims like "climbs like and XC bike, descends like a DH" are clearly bollocks (although the new broduro crowd round here fall for that one all the time).The bike companies realised that if they could get Mtb riders thinking like roadies they would have a new stream of media led noobs with cash to burn on the latest fad. The industry is at fault, but the people buying it are actually the problem.
  • 3 0
 @Bustacrimes: spot on! i'm not that good with words but you nailed it. Cheers!
  • 2 0
 @Bustacrimes: Agreed. One point though: stiffness is quantifiable as well but it's harder to publish. We would need to use standard tests with meaningful constraints, loading conditions and reasonable confidence intervals. From what I understand, testing and publishing values for frame stiffness is common in Germany, but the tests don't necessarily represent what the frame sees in actual riding conditions and too few replicates are taken in order to know the statistical significance. Thus the published stiffness values are touted about like weights are here, but they don't really mean much.
  • 1 0
 @otto99: most people still push their bikes up...that is the thing ahaha
  • 1 0
 downhill24.bike/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/14379900_1777560259152595_1895229949604785449_o.jpg

Found this online, says 2330g / 5.1lbs
  • 1 0
 @Bustacrimes: damn this guy is good
  • 30 1
 "Remember when Nico Vouilloz was seen riding a Fox 40 with the crown cut off to get more torsional flex? "
I don't but i'd like to!
  • 13 0
 I tried looking it up and found nothing.
  • 3 0
 @Buggyr333: subbed to this. I wanna see it too.
  • 3 0
 @MortifiedPenguin: Yeah, I had no luck either. I'd love to see a picture of that.
  • 4 3
 This isnt it but it's another funky but cool mod that I remember seeing when it was first posted.
Neko Mulally milled the crown of his 40 to fit a 29er

m.pinkbike.com/news/neko-mulally-scott-gambler-franken-bike.html
  • 2 0
 Would also love to see it and can't find it...
  • 1 0
 probably riding Lapierre DH230
  • 20 0
 Hell yeah my friend! You made it to pinkbike! I'm so proud of you! keep it up, and you'll kick big name(lame) brands in the bottom (hahahhah you cant block this) Smile )
  • 20 2
 I dont care how it performs.
It looks wicked!!!
And i cant afford itSmile
  • 5 0
 Grrrmmbldentistsaaarrgh
  • 14 0
 Of course it's specific they made in Germany. Also it's funny how some of the most expensive forks on the market are open bath like old marzocchi's my 55 evo ti's are still awesome at five years old
  • 13 18
flag WAKIdesigns (May 2, 2017 at 12:51) (Below Threshold)
 Because Marzocchis are filled with litre of oil sloshing around. Reliability wise - top scores but Good luck with getting consistent low speed compression from a Marzo.
  • 8 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Old marzocchies are filled with oil, new ones aren't much different to anyone else
  • 12 0
 I know I'm the not the only one who will second that, the open bath marzocchis had their issues but they still might have been the best forks I've ridden when it comes to bailing you out of some serious, heavy-duty miscalculations. I have one on my backup bike, can't compete obviously as an all-around fork with what is out these days, but they had their moments.
  • 19 1
 My 888 rc3 evo is still the most buttery fork I've ever laid my formerly-aching hands on. It may not be the fastest or lightest thing out there, but I still hold it up as the ultimate "Cadillac" of suspension forks. Plush, smooth and built to last. Perfect if you're not concerned about racing the clock.
  • 5 13
flag WAKIdesigns (May 2, 2017 at 13:48) (Below Threshold)
 I have Shiver SC. No I am not installing it back again. I take Reba anytime, anyday.
  • 4 0
 @rory: Funny you make the Cadillac reference, I was going to make a similar comparison about how certain classic cars just have that sweet handling, but then figured I'd already written too much. My pops has been driving the same mazda miata limited ed since '97 (I know, who the hell buys a limited miata?), in terms of new-age stuff the car has one of the shortest wheelbases/"reaches" and it's honestly kind of amazing how fun that thing is to drive but more importantly how well it handles. Was reading the chris porter interview article and while I'm sure he is mostly right, there is just something to be said about certain products being complete realizations vs. half-way engineered, and in doing so they defy conventional wisdom. Few and far between, but they're real alright and certain marzos were among them.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: and a martini? "Who luvs ya baby"
  • 4 0
 @rory: my 2010 888 rc3 now has an avalanche cartridge its like melted butter Smile
  • 5 0
 @WAKIdesigns: There is a decade of development between the shiver sc and the 55 rc3 evo ti. The shiver's HSVC damper is little more than a piston with some holes in it sloshing around in oil with no external compression adjustment but a lot can be done with different oil weights and heights. The 55 has a fully adjustable shim stack and works very well if you read dirt magazines review they comment on the how good the damping is. It's just a shame that marzocchi are now own by fox who have so little faith in there own product that they stop spares support after five years
  • 3 0
 @gemma8788: I completely agree. There's a particular beauty about some older things that were just done right. Trying to always keep up-to-date with the latest and greatest tech inevitably has it's pitfalls....I could easily list off several dud technologies of the last few years! I'm perfectly happy sticking with tried and true.

As for the Waki comments, personally, I have never experienced any "damping consistency" whatsoever with my 888. Incredibly tuneable, and has always done EXACTLY what I wanted it to...saving my ass multiple times in the process. Open bath done right works just fine and outlasts everything else....just a little heavier.
  • 2 3
 @rory: "I still hold it up as the ultimate "Cadillac" of suspension forks."

Handled like a barge, then...
  • 2 3
 @gemma8788: "it's honestly kind of amazing how fun that thing is to drive but more importantly how well it handles"

It's really NOT "amazing". Not to those of us in the civilised world who have been throwing little sports cars around back lanes, which has been going on for the last 60 years...
  • 1 0
 @KeithReeder: Your loss brother, I still think it's amazing -- whether it's 60 years or a million, it's amazing how fun they are and it's amazing how they handle. If you aren't amazed, then what's the point? Same with bikes -- I could say I'm amazed at how much I've loved riding bikes for the past fifteen years, and you could say, "Well, no, we in the civilized world (assuming you're referring to England?) have been riding bikes for 100 years, it's not amazing at all!" Hell of an outlook. I guess when Gary Fisher said, "Anybody who rides a bike is a friend of mine," he was really just embracing his American hick-ness and uncivilized, primeval animal-joy of riding bikes and hanging out with bikers. So I decided to go full-uncivilized and like your comments anyway, 'cause it really is hard for me to imagine you and me hitting a trail together and not having a good time and a few laughs. No hard feelings on my end, but it wasn't easy ; )
  • 1 0
 @KeithReeder: Way to miss the point, Keith. Got anything productive to bring to the conversation, or just busy trolling?
  • 13 1
 I miss my Maverick SC32 and DUC 32
  • 2 0
 Loved my SC32's, awesome forks!
  • 2 0
 Still running the SC32 on an ML7, and a DUC32 on an ML8. Both going strong. Love how user friendly they are (for those that love to tinker).
  • 11 0
 I ordered myself a X-fusion Revel X. no one rides it and no reviews in the last months but I´ll give it a go
  • 3 0
 Last I heard they shipped out a few but then decided to not go ahead with the project, made me very sad.
  • 4 0
 @pedalhound: Iron stable in Taiwan sell them.
  • 1 0
 Yes, we will need a review!! When does it arrive?
  • 2 0
 @pedalhound: Yep, last thing I read was that they canceled the project.


@bikybiky: Please do tell what the fork looks like when it arrives, or if it ever arrives Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @pyromaniac: I canceled the revel and ordered the intend edge
  • 1 0
 @bikybiky: Thx for the update
  • 11 2
 I think I'll accept the burden of an extra ounce or two and stay away from a stem that looks like it would crush like a beercan.
  • 4 0
 Same here. Looking forward to the arrival of a Hope DH stem to replace the XC Version on my trailbike. Hope-fully this will get me rid of squeeking and heavy flexing under load from putting power to the pedal. On the other hand i guess the 70g burden will cost like 2 minutes total on Strava over the next 5 years. Shame!
  • 1 0
 @Muckal: isn't the squeaking more likely coming from the fork crown?
  • 1 0
 @Bustacrimes: i will find out but it stopped since i tightened the screws with more than the recommended torque...still having a bad feeling.
  • 1 0
 @Bustacrimes: well, no. It stopped after swapping the stem.
  • 8 1
 I may provide a translation of an initial pre-production test from a german bike website (January '16).

"The Intend SC166 [adjustable travel up to 176,mm] was impressive: The completely self-developed and engineered USD-fork not only looks spectecular it also performs really well on the trail. In terms of suspension and damping the exclusive fork doesn't need to shy away from competitors like RockShox Lyrik or Fox 36. Minor details like the axle, the stanchion-guards, and the adjustment hardware [setup buttons] leave room for improvement. However, the basis is promising and convincing in the relevant criteria. The exciting question remains whether, and if yes, the fork will officially hit the market."

Pro: capable suspension and damping, adjustable by the customer; unique look and development; high manufacturing and build quality

Con: adjustment-buttons for damping not indexed; complicated wheel assembly; not available

No, I'm not working either for the website or the developer nor do I relate to anyone involved in developing and selling the fork Smile
  • 6 0
 I'd like to try it compared to my DVO Emerald. Idk why they tested it against the Dorado and not the Emerald as well. The Emerald with the CTA helps a lot, instead of leaving the stanchions free of an arch. Be interesting to see when they compare them.
  • 1 0
 Why do most large manufacturers stay away from open bath (emulsion dampers) yet a number of folks swear by them?
  • 8 0
 open baths are easy serviced at home, sealed units require service kits and bit more knowhow.
  • 3 1
 @nicolai12: Marketing and a slight weight savings.
  • 3 6
 @nicolai12: you probably talked to one of these guys:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/13631295

I bet they still wank to Jenna Jameson
  • 1 0
 @bat-fastard: isn't the point of a damper to perform well and not necessarily be easily serviced? What are the performance advantages or limitations.
  • 6 2
 @nicolai12: with an open bath damper, you get air going through the valves/shims along with oil, so they have inconsistent damping. sealed dampers solve this. that's why legit manufacturers switched to sealed. sealed used to suck because the bladders would blow up, but they fixed that now.

way harder to make a good sealed system, so not surprising small guys use it and pretend its better.
  • 3 1
 open bath has its advantages too, I had both and have settled for an avalanche open bath cartridge. sealed ones aren't in the same ball park.
  • 2 1
 @parallaxid: +1 the frothing that can occur when the oil/air mix seriously reduced the forks feel and ability to cope with big hits. And +1 for the smaller firms who struggle with the manufacturing costs, they do just put their heads in the sand. Bladder is the only way forward. Home tuning is not and never should be a consideration when producing a high end product.
  • 1 2
 high end... meh
  • 6 1
 @BryceBorlick: nobody knows what is "high end". Some think fkng Tune seat post is high end because it weighs nothing and costs lots. They evenutally rethink it when it snaps and they are left with the sharp end of it up their arse. Why is fkng Lyrik RCT3 considered high-end and X-Fusion Revel isn't? Because it appears on looots of bikes. Why is fkng comp version of carbon framed bike considered higher-end than it's alu version with better components? How many people go meh around Öhlins MTB suspension while motorcylists shit their pants at the thought of it? Level of engineering, actual complexity of technology, actual performance is rarely considered, Everything is valued through weight to stiffness ratio multiplied by good reviews at major sites.

And then there is the other side of the coin, and that is fuk-turds seeing everything through price. Why would I buy ENVE bars if I can get some carbon no name from AliExpress? Go on I say to such person, you'll laugh at the dentists buying ENVE when you smash your teeth into your stem after your bar snaps. Same with Marzocchi - Oh I have 2007 66RC2X, fitted it with AVA - why would I bother buying 36RC2 2017? Because a 10 year old fork made mostly of soft alloys will fkng snap sooner or later you idiot.
  • 7 1
 "do you want your fork to flex back and forth under load and bind through the travel, or be stiff in corners and when trying to track the ground? Remember when Nico Vouilloz was seen riding a Fox 40 with the crown cut off to get more torsional flex?"

Not sure about this one. I figure I'd want the front wheel to point in a predictable direction more so than have a predictable amount of friction as it moves through travel. Then again I probably can't tell the difference if its binding or not so I must rely on you, the all knowing internet comment section, to set me straight!

Also, how did Nico's experiment work out? Seen riding and still riding are not the same...
  • 9 0
 Too stiff means you will get deflected more and actually less likely to in the direction you want! Same goes for wheels and frame as well
  • 5 0
 Think of it like suspension for rocks that deflect you to the side: if a fork is stiff, it will transfer that energy to your mass, altering your direction of travel. If the fork can absorb that energy by flexing slightly, then returning, your mass will continue along the same axis. To a point, obviously. This is what moto guys are talking about when they speak about "tracking." Essentially, a fork "tracks" better if it doesn't get knocked out of line as easy. Which requires some lateral flex.

Suspension in general is about absorbing impacts to keep your mass moving in the same direction. This is just applying that concept to impacts on a lateral plane instead of a vertical one.
  • 4 6
 @groghunter: there's different kinds of flex I learned. My Shiver SC tracked absolutely beatifully. It was just sticking to off camber sections. But Fkng RS Sektor, Revelation and Marzo AM1 that I owned were absolutely awful when it came to handling. I don't know how it works but flexy std forks feel like sht to me, while I love even flexier USDs
  • 3 1
 The torsional flex of a dorado is awesome until you hit a hole while railing a turn. Scariest feeling of my life when the front wheel all of a sudden springs in a different direction Eek

The tracking and grip is insane though. Definitely a trade off!
  • 1 0
 loved my shivers for the same but the got squirmy on heavy jump landings so changed to mosters the exact opposite..
  • 2 2
 @bobj: I think your mind might be playing tricks on you there....

There is more torsional flex but we're talking millimetres.
  • 1 1
 @EuanBisset145: I disagree man. Hold the front wheel in between your legs and twist the bars. Huge amount of movement on a dorado compared to a boxxer!
  • 4 1
 @bobj: it is a trade off but for the most part USD tracking just does the job better. Just like 29" wheels, fat tyres - for the most surface of every corner of every trail on this planet, these things just work better. USD does better job of keeping the wheel on the ground and lead the bike in intended direction. Both due to flex and due to increased suppleness of sliders being placed closer to the wheel axle (I don't buy the lower unsprung mass argument, I bet both USD and STD forks are very comparable in that department). Super stiff fork like 40 or 36 will simply bounce more off the sides of rocks and toss the front wheel more. Yes for railing machine dug, smooth berms a stiff fork is surely better but that's a small percentage of the terrain that most of us ride in.

Stiffness is the second marketing card bike makers always pull out. And it's always about more stiffness to weight ratio which is bullcrap. But they do want to sell these bikes so they keep on selling the story to those who actually buy them, and they know little... they need a quick story.

The downsides of USD forks are simply high manufacture price and higher weight. This is what burries them.
  • 3 0
 Everything is a tradeoff. Usd forks track better, but feel different. Once you get used to the difference, and try to go back to a conventional design, you would wionder how you could have ever ridden a bike with a conventional fork. I could never get used to the feel of the conventional forks after years of MX. The inverted fork switch was revolutionary and dramatically improved the tracking/handling of the bikes. The stiffness at the crown with the larger tubes and greater clamping surface area on the inverted design provides more stable geometry, where conventional forks flex a lot more at the crown with their smaller tubes and smaller clamping area.
  • 4 0
 Well if you ever had a chance to ride his forks produced at/with Trickstuff - they were pretty awesome. Pretty wicked stuff there by Cornelius.
If you got the money - I'm pretty sure it will be worth it - and quality top notch.
  • 2 0
 Because of the small production tubes can be replaced, too. And dented or scratched forks can be repaired.
  • 4 0
 Biggest props to cornelius aka bommelmaster! in the beginning most of the people thought a own fork would be an unrealistic idea. and now here we are. A mate got one, it works perfect, looks just unique and its worth him every penny. Well done bommel!
  • 3 0
 There's something about an upside down fork that just looks right, back in the day I rode a coda moto 120 that was borderline shit in every other way but was amazing off the top and super stiff. Shame it weighed as much as two other forks and needed rebuilding after every ride haha
  • 3 0
 I like the way he is doing things.
Does it his own way and shows that there are other possibilities than the mainsteam ones.

I'd like to see a dropper post from him or a 120-140mm fork. And a shock perhaps.

Probably Cannondale will employ him as they need new ideas to stay different Wink
  • 5 0
 best proprietary tool ever. and if the stems naff i can use it in the kitchen and go full enduro chef
  • 4 1
 Finally some innovation that is MEANINGFUL. Not another new arbitrary axle standard. These forks look sick.. Inverted single crowns are LONG overdue. THANK YOU MTB GODS. I WILL ORDER FOR MY YT.
  • 5 0
 Wooden spoon tool! I'm sold!
  • 1 0
 I want it! I've owned a Dorado and a Shiver and I loved both. Also, it's great to see that other people can appreciate the amazing feel of an older marzo despite that they were heavy and took an entire bottle of shock oil to fill, makes me wish I had a 66 again.
  • 2 0
 I just rebuilt my 2008 66 RC3 on Saturday night. Just over half a liter of Maxima fork oil and some shiny new skfs should keep it going until I give in and get a 27.5 or some such modern bike. Tons of fancier shocks out there but you can't beat how plush a good coil and oil fork feels. If anyone ever makes a reasonably priced, well built coil and oil fork for modern DH bikes, I'd be on it in a heartbeat.
  • 5 0
 nobody in these comments will ever own one.
  • 1 0
 Ride a Dorado with 26's stans procore magic marry's and after 10 years riding with the same guys I finally manage to be a little faster here and there and work related fatness is not helping me where most of my riding buddies live it.
  • 1 0
 I don't want to be a dick, but single crown inverted forks should have the crown of king tut, and Zeus put together, just 2 wobbly ass legs sticking down 2.5 feet is scary looking. Or maybe they should be a 1 piece strong unit for the whole upper portion including the stem. Anyway, like I always say, "you never know until you try it". Everyone didn't like Marzocchi's single crown Shivers back in the day, even though they had a lot going for them in my opinion.
  • 4 0
 Shiver? History goes round
  • 4 0
 Another new bike product i'll have to FORK out for Smile
I'll get my coat
  • 3 3
 No thanks on the steerer tube design. I get that IF everything is tight, it's just as strong, but what about if it starts to come loose mid run? Shit happens and I'll only have about an 1/8 inch of up and down play before my entire front end detaches. No bueno.
  • 3 2
 Loctite!!!
  • 2 1
 @mhoshal: I'm not going to bank wadding up on loctite. This could be a good idea for racers who have everything checked every run, but not for the "average" rider.
  • 3 1
 have all 6 bolts on your triple clamps ever all loosened up in a run ever? or hell even one of them? and so then what... the top tree stem clamp bolt on a 40, or the star nut bolt on a top cap... those are the two little guys giving you piece of mind in this situation? whatever works for you i guess but geezus.
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 @Sweatypants: you're forgetting the fore and aft motion of the fork. Having a steerer tube allows for a great bit of play to be allowed in headset up and down without catastrophic failure. With this system, you only get an 1/8 inch of play or so up and down before the fork can easily be detached from the bike. I have had a head set come loose and I haven't had a crown bolt come loose because I grease mine (yes, grease). There is a greater margin for error with this system. With the top crown removed, as in the scenario you provided, this system would be easier to remove due to it only having to move an 1/8 inch down. The steerer tube has to be completely moved down and out of the head tube before it can be removed.
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 Could've just designed it the other way up so the bolt has NO chance of falling........... I had a similar Idea years ago but, mine had the crowns clamping onto bearings that sat external from the head tube, so the head tube became the steerer. Shame I'm not a bike desighner
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 @nojzilla: Just because something didn't "fall out" doesn't mean it isn't loose and can't be moved more than 1/8".
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 @AZRyder: that's your choice but you don't need to "wad" as you say the loctite up a couple drops will do the trick and will last until you loosen the bolt off. I don't know what you think you know about loctite but it's clearly false information because it one product that actually does work as intended!!
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 @AZRyder: you're blind if you think that's only an 1/8 of an inch lol
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 @mhoshal: It's just a product without a guarantee. I'm not going to bank my front teeth and a catastrophic failure on whether my loctite is up to snuff. That's like saying "who cares if it's a dangerous design, there's a Velcro strap to save you!" I won't be using a bolt thread adhesive to cover a dangerously minimalistic design.
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal: 1/4". Whatever.
  • 4 0
 IMHO Harry Bush is the best name in the bike industry.
  • 1 0
 three months lead time... well, this German company don't know about lean manufacturing and customer needs. We need it now! And haft the price too...
  • 4 0
 they aren't a company yet, the guy builds them by himself atm. But yes we need them now and cheaper.
  • 1 0
 Time for a kaizen event
  • 1 0
 So for the guys who can read some German: here's a review of the prototype:

www.mtb-news.de/news/2015/01/16/prototyp-usd-mtb-federgabel
  • 3 0
 176mm - That seems very specific ! Awesome though
  • 13 0
 I was in the market for 175mm so I'll give these a miss.
  • 4 0
 @yeti-monster: I bet he would build you a custom 1mm spacer.
  • 3 1
 And we were just talking about inverted forks on the Enduro Thread the other day.....
  • 3 1
 But will they do purple ano?
  • 2 0
 Of all the possible names......
  • 1 0
 Give the guy a break, his name is Cornelius. Also, it's still better than DVO's Beryl.
  • 1 0
 If they didn't use gold it would be cheaper, and lighter. Not nearly as blingy though.
  • 1 0
 wait so I can just cut off the crown of my Pike and get the same effect? Done!
  • 2 0
 $1700-$2500 ???? Keep it!
  • 2 0
 made to order? sounds like a good thing maybe.
  • 1 0
 Silver and black anodized would be interesting to see. Don't know if I would like such a colourful fork...
  • 1 0
 Ok, I've looked on FB and the black one is nice. Even if I'm not a fan of black atm. Silver with black stanchions would be great I think. And different from the first view.
  • 1 0
 Man I would love to have one of each! Is it possible to get them shipped to the US?
  • 3 1
 Dh fork looks 29er ready
  • 1 0
 That 176mm travel fork is attached to xc wiener rubber.
  • 3 2
 Looks awesome, now all you need to do is put Ohlins internals in it!
  • 2 2
 "intend intend to send us a fork for testing over the summer" ..... Classic
  • 1 0
 This has intrigued me....
  • 2 2
 the problem with that german stem its impossible insert a riser bar . dont pass trough the 31.8 hole
  • 2 5
 And its copied from an italian company. the shape is 100% the same !
dhsign.it/index.php/prodotti/hugo
  • 3 1
 @solidgas:
Those two are not even close to looking remotely alike.
Yes, both are stems, but other than that? o.O
Looks like a Session, eh?
  • 1 0
 @solidgas: side loading those tiny bolts is a bad idea.
  • 1 1
 @fussylou: waht you mean ? in italian o germa stem ?
  • 1 0
 They should do a fork collaboration with Nitro-Shox
  • 1 0
 They look a little "Chinese"....
  • 1 4
 So 1.7k USD and plastic parts cause they are cheaper? Can't use TI and keep it the same price? Or would that jack up the price another 500 dollars? Hell, I got a TI pathfinder watch that is cheaper than a lot of other models in plastic.
  • 1 0
 Fox is collectively laughing it's ass off right now.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy how the reviews for these bad boys coming along?
  • 1 0
 I don't have one but I think @paulaston might?
  • 1 0
 maybe a road stem
  • 1 0
 That is one sexy stem!
  • 1 0
 VOV
  • 2 5
 If you intend to buy one, your bank account might edge down significantly.
  • 12 1
 I'd rather put my money here than plastic wheels. Just saying... You can always get Auron if you don't feel spendy, nice to see someone pushing the envelope.
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