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Kamloops Bike Community Mourns The Farm, a Treasured Riding Spot & Home Burned in Wildfire

Aug 6, 2021
by Alicia Leggett  
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The Farm was never just a riding spot. It was that, of course, but to call it just a riding spot wouldn't do it justice. The Farm was home to so much of the Kamloops bike scene and is the setting for many of the iconic videos we know and love, but even more so, it was home to Ron Penney and Krys Green, who built the 45-acre piece of land into the bike park it became.

Ron and Krys created The Farm out of a lifelong love for the sport. It was their own, it was epic, and it became a sanctuary for countless mountain bikers over the years. It's special in that it flew under the radar, but while you may not have heard of it, you've no doubt seen it in segments like 'Ashes to Agassiz' and 'Follow Me.'

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Ron and Krys made The Farm their home, and in doing so, created a home for countless mountain bikers.


Yesterday, The Farm was completely destroyed by a wildfire. Along with the devastation for Ron, Krys, and their immediate community, a generation of mountain bikers lost a place that inspired them and helped create some of the best riders out there today.

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The fire.


Matt Hunter has set up a GoFundMe to help Ron and Krys recover from this massive loss.


bigquotesThis was not only a place that created everlasting memories for those who rode there and inspired countless mountain bikers around the world; it was home to Ron and Krys.Thomas Vanderham


bigquotesI’ve never been to a place that made laughing, smiling, and hootin’ and hollerin’ more contagious. I’ve probably smiled more out there than every other moment in my life combined. These two people have dedicated a huge portion of their lives to something that benefited others way more than it could ever benefit them.Luke Beers


bigquotesA lot of memories and good times had at this place, lost for words with Ron and Krys loss yesterday.Graham Agassiz


bigquotesThis is no longer home for Ron and Kris. Recent wild fires in BC have devastated their home and everything the farm has become to them and an iconic gift of theirs to the sport of mtb.Sterling Lorence

Ashes to Agassiz

All of us at Pinkbike send our condolences to Ron, Krys, and everyone else who loved The Farm so much.




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  • 110 1
 I'm not always keen on praising the corporate, but there is someone names Shimano T.I.H (this is home?) who just gave 10k to the go fund me.

If this is Shimano silently putting their money where their mouth is, huge props to them.
  • 3 47
flag taskmgr (Aug 6, 2021 at 23:26) (Below Threshold)
 Thats not very silent but still good on them
  • 47 2
 we can rebuild. better, faster, stronger than it was before. hope all is well thats shitty news to hear on a Friday night
  • 36 93
flag abueno FL (Aug 6, 2021 at 20:17) (Below Threshold)
 The rebuilding can be done, but until the forrest land management and utility companies that start these fires are held accountable, it’s just a matter of time for it to happen again somewhere else. See California for ref..
  • 23 5
 The damage is not too bad. As long as the foundations are still strong, we can rebuild this place. It will become a haven for all peoples and aliens of the universe.
  • 7 14
flag vuddha (Aug 6, 2021 at 20:38) (Below Threshold)
 What a delusional comment!
  • 18 24
flag Super7 (Aug 6, 2021 at 21:11) (Below Threshold)
 @abueno: You're an idiot Mike Lindell.
  • 72 16
 @abueno: there are currently ~300 wildfires burning in British Columbia, and while a few were undoubtedly started by people, the majority are naturally caused - mostly by things like lightning strikes. Unfortunately, anthropogenic climate change has led to exceptionally bad conditions where more, larger fires are getting out of control and causing problems as seen in both California and British Columbia.
  • 48 4
 @ratedgg13: 10 years ago they warned us this would start to happen and no one cared. The really concerning thing though is now it is happening and apart from those directly affected no one seems to really care. Wonder what it's going to take before we start to do something. Mandating no till planting seems like it might be a good start.
  • 6 16
flag willdavidson9595 (Aug 6, 2021 at 21:34) (Below Threshold)
 @Super7: why did you go there... we KNOW what happens when political comments show up on Pinkbike. Bad things.
  • 17 9
 @willdavidson9595: Because the guy is an insane conspiracy theorist. That's who has no place here. Not people who call them out.
  • 3 2
 @ratedgg13: well said.
  • 19 5
 @Super7: sorry I didn’t mean to be conspiracy theorist, I was going off the fact that PGE did state they caused fires, which resulted in 85 dead people..they paid a fine, no jail time. Sorry for not being more detailed on the interwebs buddy pal guy
  • 4 6
 @ratedgg13: absolutely agree, and I can’t help but wonder what could have been done at the turn of the 19th with how much timber was being used throughout the world, the sustainability should have began back then but no way anyone was thinking the industrial revolution would have happened. Once that global shift occurred, the $, like all things took precedence over the common good of the environment. Oh well..I’m just tired of seeing my friends lose their homes.
  • 26 15
 @friendlyfoe: Global warming has been happening, mass extinctions events, wildfires, unusual weather patterns. This was all explained to us in the early 1990's and we continued to use fossil fuels, chase money over our future and health. Global warming isn't going to negatively impact Earth, it will only negatively impact us humans. How many of us are willing to make changes to our lives to consume less, be more sustainable, and care about us more than money. First it may be too late, second WE LOVE MONEY!!! I'm not holding my breath, and have accepted my faith. Hopefully I'll be one of the first ones to leave this life so I don't see the worst of global warming impact on humans. Covid-19 taught me that there are many of us who only care about ourselves and only ourselves. I'm going to jump onto this bandwagon too, the earth is flat, global warming isn't human caused, and covid is a hoax by libertards trying to take my freedom and guns away.
  • 21 1
 @ratedgg13: actually 54% are caused by humans. BC Wildfire stats.
  • 3 2
 @willdavidson9595: Now those foundations are gone. Sorry
  • 4 49
flag scitrainer (Aug 6, 2021 at 23:42) (Below Threshold)
 @abzillah: Name one " mass extinction" that has happened in the last 10,000 years...

Hell name one species of anything that has gone extinct in the last 20 years that can be directly related to the climate...
  • 13 9
 @friendlyfoe: The US is the only major country to decrease CO2 emissions in last decade. On top of that, there are another 194 countries in the world that have to reduce their emissions drastically. Near impossible. If you have traveled a lot abroad to third world countries, they are doing very little or nothing about climate change or pollution. Many countries are simply too poor of countries to do anything. They can't even support their populations. You see raw sewage and toxic chemicals being dumped into rivers and oceans where people are bathing and washing clothes, mountains of garbage everywhere, the sky is so smoggy you can't see the sun, etc, etc. The most impoverished people are not concerned about climate change, they are concerned about getting the absolute necessities (food, water, shelter, etc).
  • 4 6
 @tacklingdummy: if you haven't watched kiss the ground on Netflix I highly recommend it. If the entire developed world switched to no till planting and having cover crops during the winter it sounds like it could still reverse climate change. Biden even mentioned it in one of his addresses but not much being done about it.
  • 11 28
flag abzillah (Aug 7, 2021 at 0:31) (Below Threshold)
 @scitrainer: naturalhistory.si.edu/education/teaching-resources/paleontology/extinction-over-time

I wish you knew how to read and do basic search engine. Seems like you putting on your blinders and so am I. Nothing is in danger. Global warming isn't real.
  • 4 1
 @scitrainer:
Bramble Island Melomys got done in by climate change
  • 22 10
 @tacklingdummy: One US company, ExxonMobil, has been the primary source for climate denial and misinformation which has been the primary reason nothing has been done about climate change worldwide. They paid off Republicans to spread their denialism message for the last 2 decades, a crucial time when the US should have been leading the way instead of denying the problem.

www.greenpeace.org/usa/ending-the-climate-crisis/exxon-and-the-oil-industry-knew-about-climate-change/exxons-climate-denial-history-a-timeline
  • 8 18
flag stumpynh (Aug 7, 2021 at 6:47) (Below Threshold)
 @abzillah: climate change: I wonder who the dinosaurs blamed theirs on
  • 18 3
 @tacklingdummy: More ridiculous delusions from an entitled American. The US, like virtually all western nations, “externalises” its pollution elsewhere in the name of profits and greenwashing.
  • 7 2
 @tacklingdummy: why don't you quickly search for per Capita greenhouse gas emissions by nation, and then re-evaluate your argument.
  • 2 13
flag tacklingdummy (Aug 7, 2021 at 8:33) (Below Threshold)
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Even if human-induced climate exists, it still doesn't change the fact that the biggest offenders (China, India, Africa and Middle East) are not doing much about it. While some countries have been taking drastic measures, it won't really change the planet planet's CO2 enough on a macro scale. To put in perspective, those areas (China, India, Middle East, and Africa) hold 60% of the population of the world and about 50% of the land mass. On top of that, how many of people in first world countries are practicing what they preach by only using renewable energy from solar, wind, or hydro and are driving electric cars? It is only about 1 to 2%.
  • 3 3
 @vuddha: Are you practicing what you preach? Living carbon net zero, living only off of solar, wind, or hydro, driving an electric car, heat your home only by geothermal? If you are not, you are part of the problem not the solution and just as "entitled".
  • 2 1
 @silentbutdeadly:
www.ehp.qld.gov.au/wildlife/threatened-species/endangered/endangered-animals/bramble_cay_melomys.html

This species was only found on Bramble Cay, a small vegetated coral cay (a reef island composed of coral rubble and sand) roughly 340 m long by 150 m wide, but subject to seasonal changes in both shape and size,
and
Being confined to a single, very small, isolated location, the species was susceptible to a range of threats. It appeared to be inbred, an intrinsic problem that raised doubts about the long term viability of the population.
and
Certainly, anecdotal reports indicate at least some individuals were killed by domestic dogs that were released onto the island from visiting boats, but also that the species was hunted by indigenous people who visited from PNG on a sporadic basis.
but..
Available evidence indicates that the anthropogenic climate change-induced impacts of sea-level rise, …….


Well, obviously….couldn’t have been anything else
  • 10 4
 I find it so surprising that people are denying climate change. That said, trolls also like to get a rise out of folks, and you’re probably a bunch of flat earth’r trump supporters....jokes on you.

For those that enjoy watching the world burn, I hope you truly see how catastrophic these wild fires are, in the US, BC, Greece, etc. Things are different, things are changing, the planet is heating up. Everyday we are seeing more evidence of a shift in our climate, and the outcomes are hitting closer to home; like the farm burning down. Read a book or look outside!
  • 9 12
 @scrappa: Cant and wont deny "climate change", the Climate has changed since the Earth formed 4 billions years ago. It will continue to change if humans are here or gone. Do I think humams are having an impact? Sure. Is it catastrophic to the point that we need to destroy economies and not allow the poorest countries (Africa/Indonesia) to use the energy they need to advance out of desperate poverty? No.

When the governments and climate scientists stop "revising" past data to fit their narrative (continously making past temperatures colder) , maybe we might find out what is really happening and why....right now it is all speculation.

To fight "climate change", Germany wants to cut down 1000s of acres of forest to put up 100s of wind turbines (each turbine pad requires 3500 TONS of concrete)...is that good for the environment??
  • 6 4
 @scrappa: www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_issues/programs/tmdl/records/region_1/2003/ref1039.pdf

"Estimates for the prehistoric areas of California burned per year are several times the areas burned
today by wild and prescribed fires. The exclusion (sic "supression") of fires from wildlands has led to extensive fuel buildup
and large, damaging wildfires"

"Over the years, more money, equipment, and human resources were put
into the effort to suppress wildfires, with apparent success. In the meantime, fuels were accumulating in the
wildlands and vegetation changes were taking place. Eventually, the effect of suppression led to a point
where fires occurring under severe fire weather conditions in the accumulated fuels were uncontrollable.
Today, although most wildfires are still controlled at a small size by initial attack, some wildfires occurring
under severe conditions are controlled after weather or fuel conditions change. These fires do most of the
damage."
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: who says I’m preaching anything? I’m just stating the facts. If anything, you are the one who is preaching.

“Renewable” energies are not really renewable when they require non-renewable resources to manufacture, not to mention extremely destructive effects. “Green” technology is a scam, but collective self-delusion doesn’t permit us seeing it for what it is.

Indeed, almost everyone living in North America, myself included, is taking more than they should and causing a disproportionate amount of destruction.
  • 2 0
 Honey, I boiled the planet.
  • 2 2
 @vuddha: So, you saying "More ridiculous delusions from an entitled American. The US, like virtually all western nations, “externalises” its pollution elsewhere in the name of profits and greenwashing." are facts and not preaching. Lmao. Got it.

I guess it shows you don't live carbon net zero by using only renewable energy, driving an electric car, heating your home only by geothermal, and not flying on airplanes.
  • 4 1
 @protwurst: I know that US has the most emissions of CO2 per capita. However, the US accounts for 15% of the world CO2 emissions. Even if the US cuts their CO2 by 50%, that is still only 7.5% decrease. So, the biggest offenders of China, India, Middle East, and Africa need to decrease their CO2 dramatically as well, but I can already tell you it is not going to happen because it will be impossible for those countries to provide energy to their populations. The US is extraordinarily more environmentally clean than those areas if you have ever traveled extensively in those areas.
  • 4 1
 @tacklingdummy: sure, I’m preaching, while your opinion is embodies typical human ignorance and hubris.

All the manufacturing and consumption that an American partakes in involves emission of CO2. Yet these emissions are not captured in your CO2 statistics.

Why should the externalized costs not be considered? Totally ridiculous and clearly delusional. Wake up!

You should learn about “green technology” before commenting on it as if you know something.

Of course, this is Pinkbike on the Internet. Not exactly a bastion of wisdom and clear thinking here.
  • 3 1
 @tacklingdummy: www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country
The US accounts for 15%, China for 30% (a good amount of that directly related to the production of things we in the US consume), and India is next at 7%. If we cut our emissions 50% we'd still produce as much as India, who have 2.5 billion people living there. I also dont understand what it means to say "Middle East" and "Africa" are big producers, as if all the different countries that comprise those regions somehow coordinate their carbon policies in lock step.

There's also a difference between pollution and carbon emissions. You are correct that most of the US is much cleaner in terms of pollutants than all of those places. But when it comes to global warming we are mostly concerned with CO2 and methane. If you roll those two together to get an idea of who is contributing to global warming, congrats to US, we still come in second: www.worlddata.info/greenhouse-gas-by-country.php

What I think you are getting at in a roundabout way is that it seems unfair to punish developing nations for being late to the party in terms of leveraging the cheap energy of fossil fuels for their development. Thats true, but also kind of a distraction. The climate IS changing. Humans ARE causing it. Those nations do not produce enough greenhouse gasses nor have the GDP to effect the kind of impact that the US and China can. You can point fingers all you want, but the US is one of only a few nations with both the GHC output AND wealth to effect change.

So I'm not sure what your arguments really boil down to here, beyond spiderman meme finger pointing.
  • 7 2
 @tacklingdummy: Also I just saw your "Even if human-induced climate exists..." post up there. I really dont know how to break this to you, but there is lots (and I mean, like, a ridiculous amount) of evidence that humans are causing climate change. There is no good evidence that I have seen yet to indicate that the rapid change in global we are currently seeing is NOT caused by humans.

I mean literally my friends PhD was on this. Another of my good friends works on this stuff at NOAA, so we've discussed it a lot over beer. Even one of my exes was doing her PhD on the impact of anthroprogenic climate change.

"Even if human-induced climate exists" is the equivalent of some random dude in jeans under the pads and chest protector they rented at the base of the hill riding up and yelling at you to "lean back over the big drops."
  • 6 7
 @protwurst:
No trends in Hurricanes:
climatlas.com/tropical

No "accelerating" sea level rise...it is rising at a steady pace (3mm/yr) since the Little Ice Age:
www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/DatasetGallery_global-mean-sea-level_thumb_16x9.jpg

In 1988, numerous Democratic Senators and "experts" claimed that the global temperature anomaly would climb by about 1.4 Degrees C by year 2021 from 1986 levels based on a NASA GISS climate model unless emissions were immediately reduced. UAH satellite measurements of global temperature which commenced in 1979 show that the global temperature anomaly has only increased since these hearings by 0.49 Degrees C by year 2021 nearly 3 times less than the flawed speculation at these hearings...

There is a LOT of money involved in climate science...people will go to great lengths to protect their paycheck.


Does anyone recall the "experts" telling us that COVID couldnt have possibly come from a lab and that anyone saying it did was a conspiracy theorist?
  • 2 1
 @scitrainer: We are at the point where we can have our cake and eat it too. Businesses that depend on fossil fuel production can be incentivized to transition to clean energy production. I used to work for BP Biofuels in 2008 in San Diego, the big energy players already knew what was ahead and has been transitioning. More and more of our energy production is coming from clean energy, and in the next two years it's expected that solar energy, storage, and delivery will be cheaper than gasoline. None of the emerging economies have to slow down growth. Those decisions are already made for them, because clean energy is already cheaper than most fossil fuels. Even places like Texas, which is big on fossil fuels, is transitioning to clean energy. This year Texas will install more solar panels than CA. Whatever your hate towards humanity and society improvements are, all of is being addressed. Hopefully we all can breath in clean air, enjoy beautiful mountains and trails, and have clean rivers to swim in.
  • 9 1
 @scitrainer: It's pretty simple. If you like the way the planet is now then we need to capture some of the carbon that's in the air to keep it that way. If we keep on this trend this planet will become uninhabitable for us.
  • 1 6
flag tacklingdummy (Aug 7, 2021 at 21:22) (Below Threshold)
 You all keep preaching the dangers of CO2 and how everyone needs to do something and lower their emissions, but again, what have you done in your own lives to become carbon neutral??

Until you all have drastically changed your lifestyles to become carbon neutral by solely using renewable energy in their homes, heat homes using renewable energy, drive electric cars, not flying on airplanes, you should not be criticizing anybody else. It is like a smoker who criticizes all the smokers around them because they are making it dangerous around them because of all their second hand smoke. Completely hypocritical. Talk is cheap. Do something.
  • 2 2
 @vuddha: FYI: Overwhelming majority of your mtb products are manufactured by fossil fuels and involves the emission of CO2. You are delusional to think otherwise. Are you going to start riding a wood bike with bamboo tires and wearing only organic cotton kits?
  • 1 1
 @friendlyfoe: Interesting idea. I work in agriculture, but I’m not sure that would do it. If you really want to reduce emissions/CO2 in the atmosphere, think electric vehicles, forest fire control etc.
  • 3 0
 One of the fundamental laws of thermodynamics is that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. From what I understand plants absorb carbon dioxide, store the carbon, and release the oxygen into the atmosphere. So theoretically an increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could result in an increase in plants ability to store carbon and release oxygen. @protwurst:
  • 1 1
 @arg2003: There is no till farming that reduces and/or eliminates the use of fertilizers, herbicide, and pesticides. Cover crops help also. Zones for wildlife and wildflowers help insects and animals. Using more wood and less plastics in life, and the wood that is harvested is replanted with new young trees. With cattle and animals, using paddocks and moving the animals around to prevent overgrazing. In the area that I live, this would make a big difference. Also, for cattle that are at the feed lock, they can be given seaweed to help reduce methane production. California already requires new home to have solar panels. Many of the energy companies are starting to use batteries to store energy from solar production to be used during the evening. We are heading in the right direction and we just need to continue to support these programs. The Ford F150 lighting looks like it has a good range and price.
  • 1 0
 Mcga
  • 2 1
 @abzillah: everything this guy said. The documentary claims we are past the tipping point where reducing our carbon output would help. Now for us to have a chance we need to start recapturing some of what's up there. It also claims that there are only a few decades of harvests left in the soil if we keep tilling. So we have to do it anyway and it might also keep our planet habitable. Seems like win win to me.
  • 6 1
 @scitrainer:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with "no trends in hurricanes." There is a prediction that hurricanes will get more intense, not necessarily more numerous, and while that one site says they arent, a more comprehensive literature review by NOAA says there is non-definitive evidence they are. www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes But its not like the effects of climate change are limited to hurricane intensity. How about drought conditions in the west?

Also, you say that sea level rise should be "accelerating", but 1) global GHC are rising linearly (public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/greenhouse-gas-levels-atmosphere-reach-new-record) and 2) why would you necessarily expect sea level rise to "accelerate" when it is impacted by lots of different factors, such as increased floatation of land as ice weight is reduced? royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-14

Further, sea ice loss is also linear, which simply shows that things are continuing to get worse. nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews

So again, I'm not really sure why either of those bits of data somehow magically refutes the fact that humans are warming the planet. What IS interesting is that you think there is more money to be made by scientists showing lots of data demonstrating the impact of climate change, versus energy companies misleading the public on whether climate change is real while acknowledging it and planning for it in their boardrooms.

*eyeball looking sideways emoji*
www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago
  • 1 0
 @abzillah: While no doubt these methods would reduce local pollution, I’m not sure they work on a global scale with the current population. If all of agriculture switched to organic practices, it is very likely we would have to convert more wild lands into crop land to sustain current productions. Basically more of the Amazon would be cleared.
  • 1 0
 @friendlyfoe: A lot of organic vegetables actually involve more tillage than conventional because of no herbicide use. In fact, organic farming actually sometimes emits more C02 into the atmosphere than conventional.
  • 1 0
 @tacklingdummy: Even if you do all those things, you still aren’t really carbon neutral. If you live a modern lifestyle in America or Canada or any developed country really you’re not carbon neutral
  • 1 4
 @arg2003: Meanwhile in other news, hundreds of the climate change leaders and climate change spokespeople just flew in via private jets just for a one day event, Obama's big lavish birthday bash. They also like to travel to climate change conferences via private jets instead of teleconferencing or Zoom. They look like they are really sacrificing and scaling their carbon footprints. Lol. Since they are the beacons of climate change and the perfect examples of living such an eco-friendly lifestyles, I want to live their lifestyles. Jetsetting all over the world on private jets sounds pretty good.
  • 1 0
 @arg2003: I didn't mention anything about organic nor am I a proponent of it. Organic really only works in places that are easy to farm organically, and the truth is there's just as many ways to damage the environment with organic practices as using synthetics. The only really good thing about something being organic is you know they haven't been spraying roundup all over the place.

No till farming and cover crops appears to be our best solution for recapturing the huge amount of carbon that has been pumped into the atmosphere.
  • 2 4
 @tacklingdummy: what is the point of all your stupid posts other than pointing out that you are a stupid Trump supporter?
  • 4 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: what's wrong with being a trumpeter?
  • 1 1
 @tacklingdummy:
The delusion lies in the following:
Many delusional people in “developed” nations, usually labeled as “liberal democracies”, feel that they are somehow doing more than people in other countries, that they have less responsibility. The delusional think they can consume their way to a solution.

Solar panels and electric cars are not clean energy. The pollution (not only carbon emissions) and land devastation required for our “clean technology” is immense but is never considered. These delusional people don’t understand that installing solar panels and buying a Tesla actually makes things worse, not better.

Everything any human consumes in any industrialized society makes things worse, right down to our food.

The delusion is even more sickening because people in the US and Canada think their environment is clean due to their robust laws and ingenuity. The reality is that the natural environment is clean in the US/Canada because the pollution has mostly been exported to other parts of the planet.

Individuals do have some responsibility in this, but governments and corporations also share in the responsibility.

Anyway, facts are boring!
  • 1 0
 @vuddha: Then what is your expert climate change opinion to save the world. Let's hear it. You keep saying you think you have all the facts, answers, and everyone else is delusional and ignorant. There is a ton of slanted science journals and studies that claim to be factual, but are just cherry picking to push narratives. I worked in science research before.
  • 1 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: I'm not against renewable energy or protecting the environment in the least. I just point out the contradictions and hypocrisy of those that are most vocal about climate change. Also, the most powerful and most vocal leaders of climate change do not practice what they preach in the least. So again, what have you done yourself to be carbon net zero? Nobody has answered that question. Lol.
  • 1 2
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Also, renewable energy technology is not even close to being good enough to support major metropolitan areas.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: I'm sorry but you're just flat out wrong. If you're going to make claims like these, provide citations. Disclosure, I spent the last decade working on assessing energy projects (public and private sector, in Canada and internationally) and am now completing a PhD in climate management. So I will call your bullshit.
  • 1 0
 @ratedgg13: I have also worked in real estate development. Logistically how are cities like Vancouver, NY, SF, Tokyo, Seoul, HK, cities in China, etc, going to fuel their energy needs with solar, wind, or hydro? There just is not enough space to put solar panels, windmills, and large scale dams with hydro. Not to mention changing stations in those big cities for every individual because they want everyone to have an electric car. Since you worked in assessing public energy projects, you know how difficult it is to bring new electrical lines in city areas. I'd like to hear your solutions.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: then your numbers are incorrect. A large number of major cities globally are already powered on hydro (a large portion of Vancouver for example). Yes, approval of transmission projects is difficult, but easier than oil pipelines. Yes, we will need a lot more renewables (and quite likely nuclear), as well as major shifts in many other areas. These are hugely difficult, but no impossible challenges to overcome.
  • 1 0
 @ratedgg13: Canada and Norway are totally different that most major metropolitan areas around the world. Not every major metropolitan area can have big hydro dams because they simply don't have the large river system and don't get the enormous amount of rainfall, not to mention the immense cost to build big hydro dams. LA, SF, HK, Tokyo, Shanghai, Seoul, etc (the city list is endless) logistically do not have river systems or space to build large scale hydro projects like that. Nuclear is really the only viable option at this time for big metropolitan areas, but good luck trying to get it past environmentalists.
  • 1 1
 @tacklingdummy: you're right, not every city is going to be hydro compatible. Solar and wind can in most cases be sufficient (either locally or transmitted from better power generation locations). Nuclear is a huge social challenge to overcome, so we will see whether that works or not. Energy storage is still the biggest issue (not generation). But today's release of the IPCC report just shows that regardless of how difficult some of these shifts may be to make, we HAVE TO make them - regardless of cost or difficulty.
  • 2 1
 @andrewbikeguide: It's crazy that some think and especially on the news saying "oh 50% of the fires are from lightning". Then, you think what about the other 50% - caused by humans! It's like WTF! It's pretty much a social media downplaying the significance of human caused disaster! Over 150 fires burning in BC are caused by careless people not properly putting out their camp fires; dumb asses throwing their cigarette butts onto roads, trails, and everywhere; railway companies with cargo trains causing sparks from rails; and most of all, forest management that seemed to have failed. No one can blame climate change when more than half of the fires are caused by irresponsible humans!
  • 2 0
 @friendlyfoe: This is why there is a race to space - it's so that if we kill off this planet, we can kill off other planets as we keep exploring for new life and things to exploit elsewhere. It really sucks that we have a beautiful planet right here for hundreds of millions of years and within 200 years, it'll be destroyed and we'll be like a parasite invading other planets to suck their lives out.
  • 2 1
 I am sorry I started this…
  • 1 0
 @abueno: no your not. This is how pb makes all their $$ just tag random lunatics like @waki @badbadleroyclown @doublecrownsmalldick
  • 1 0
 @makripper: ahh ok, my bad, thanks for reminding me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • 1 0
 @abueno: any time bro jangles
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 @tacklingdummy:

Clearly it’s not obvious, so I’ll have to spell it out for you. To get to net zero you need to do two things:

1) stop breeding
2) commit suicide
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 @vuddha: That's what Jason Kenney pretty much said. So, it's not possible and we're not going to do anything about it. Might as well do the scorch-earth and say the hell with it!
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 @tacklingdummy: Those contradictions are a drop in the bucket and there is little to no value in complaining about them. I commute to work on a bike, maybe not net zero but an effort. All you seem to do is use lame right wing media talking points to distract from the issue and prevent progress. Little to no value in any of your posts.
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 @vuddha: Well then, why are you arguing to about climate change and CO2 emissions? If there is nothing that can be done to decrease CO2, we should all just live our lives and focus on pollution which is proven to cause health problems and death.
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 @DoubleCrownAddict: The contradictions are not a drop in the bucket. The populations making changing their habits to have less emissions is absolutely the point you are all preaching people to do. If you don't practice what you preach, then stop preaching to other to do it. The "we are holier than thou" moral superiority over any people that don't have your opinions is extremely hypocritical and arrogant.
  • 30 2
 I just met Ron a few weeks ago at Sun Peaks. I was bored, 7am, the lift wasn't open yet, and so I wandered up to see if I could help these guys digging a new trail. The guys were super friendly and open to help, showed me what they liked, what they were doing and how they wanted the trail to be treated/built. Ron was such a warm friendly guy that I spent the rest of my day there and only actually got one lift lap in. We had lunch together and he seemed to naturally cultivate a culture of community and camaraderie even while building a little trail for kids on run bikes. When you see what they have contributed to the sport at every level, it only makes sense to go give back now even if you are one of the few in BC that has not ridden one of his trails.
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 Oddly enough I've never ridden The Farm. That said, I've had the pleasure riding with Ron a few times. AND MOST of us in BC have ridden masterpieces created by Ron and crew. Let's not derail this into a climate change/ covid comment section... it's about Ron and Krys, they need our help and support right now.

Let's show them what the Riding community is about!

www.gofundme.com/f/friends-of-the-farm-helping-out?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer

www.gofundme.com/f/friends-of-the-farm-helping-out?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer

www.gofundme.com/f/friends-of-the-farm-helping-out?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer
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 So sorry to hear this. We too face massive bushfire risk in Australia, and can truly commiserate.
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 Damn that hits hard Frown

There was something truly magical about seeing The Farm being fully sent by the pros in riding movies, and then logging in to PinkBike and seeing homemade videos of everyday guys riding there too - having a great time with their mates, pushing themselves to do jumps and stunts they'd never done before Salute

I hope death need not be the end tup
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 Death was never intended to be the end, but just the beginning.
We’re born looking like our parent, we die looking like our choices.
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 if you can see, and understtand the bigger picture, our species is unsustainable...our numbers, our needs, our wars. in the history of the planet, we havent been here too long. humankind will just have to adapt to another one of the planets climate changes. enjoy yur trails cause riding trails might not be a thing in 25 years.
  • 3 0
 And now (Saturday morning) all of Vernon BC (pop: 45,000) is on evacuation alert, due to high winds causing embers from the White Rock fire to be blown across Okanagan Lake. Stay safe people.
  • 2 1
 this honestly breaks my heart to see! this spot is the biggest dream spot of mine ive always wanted to ride! the work and creations they've built is like no other trail! and many many trail builders that like jump trails should learn from this places!
  • 3 0
 I feel your pain . I live in Athens Greece and we just lost one of the biggest mountains we had from a wildfire. Trails can be made again . Nature not that easy.
  • 4 1
 Lost my home in an OR wildfire...hope you can rebuild. Note to self...renter's insurance
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 Aluminum bikes melt in these fires.
  • 2 1
 So sorry to hear. I recently lost everything to thieves but can't comprehend how sucky it would be to actually lose your home. Glad you're ok, the community is here for you.
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 Devastating news Frown
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 Material things can and will be replaced/rebuilt. Let's just hope all the residents, guests and emergency crew are all safe.
  • 1 1
 Now it's rebuilding. I imagine it won't be the same thing as before, but it's life that goes on and the good memories will remain.
  • 1 1
 is there a fund or something being started to help them? Don't know them and never been there....but they are bike family.....
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 Donte if you can. It will help. You're all part of the global mountain biking community.
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 No words will help. Just contribute what you can.
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 Stephanie and "Brurjen" ? Probably savage your name but thinking of you guys just meet in Whistler.
Be safe.
Come visit us in the east coast even if it's not the best.

Sorry PB just realized I was using you...
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 @TrkRem9: Can't kill the consumers.....that would cause the paper tiger global economy to fail.
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 devastating
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 I feel like someone just burned my childhood home.
  • 2 1
 Bucket list -1
  • 2 1
 Damn...
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 mannnn sucks
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 Devastating.
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 Sending love and thoughts from England.
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 We just woke up in a specialized documentary montage from the future.
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 Climate change claims yet another victim...
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 And this is just the beginning..of the end.
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 The question is you guy’s are saying how much it sucks but are you going to actually donate?
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 @stumpynh: Their farts, obviously! Duuhhh.....LOL
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