If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If the powers that be at UCI are trying to justify their exorbitant salaries doing crap like this, I think they should really should consider focusing and fixing bigger problems elsewhere in the UCI.
@brianpark: I roughly follow the UCI ordeals and stuff, and somewhat follow DH racing. What is everyone talking about in the comment thread? That this article is too much? Just not following
@chillrider199: the new rules regarding qualification and start order are convoluted and dumb, so it's not necessarily the case any more that it's just the quali results in reverse order. Gwin qualified 17th and is starting 9th last, for example.
@Rubberelli: You never had to. They used to slot any protected riders (top 20) in 21st place which worked perfectly well and didn't disrupt the qualifying order.
In my opinion these rules were only needed due to red bull dropping the number of riders shown from 30 to 20.
@GrandMasterOrge: adding 50% more broadcast riders adds another hour to the 2 hour show (and thats just for the men). Who wants to watch the podium go down first anyway? Gwin flatted in qualies yesterday. If he didn't crash today, he probably would have won and if it was in the old formula, he would have started two hours before the end of the broadcast. If the new formula brings the podium from the top ten then that's the goal, as viewership skyrockets for those last ten.
@Rubberelli: 3 minute gaps is only for the top 20 (3:30 for 1-10, 3:00 for 11-20), once you get past the broadcast riders the gap is 1 minute so it would be an additional 10 minutes for the next 10 riders to be shown. Despite it being a *2 hour show* today we got 75 minutes of racing between Brendan's start time and Luca's start time.
a) Gwin would have gone down an hour before the end, not 2, and b) I'd happily stick another 10 minutes on that to see another 10 riders and avoid having these artificial qualifying rules that for me, spoil the event a bit.
Gwin did flat yesterday, and Gwin did crash today, this is racing not a scripted reality tv show.
@GrandMasterOrge: And yet, all but 1 dark horse of the podium was from the last ten, so the strategy works. Are you suggesting that Red Bull should only show 1 minute of the runs for places 30-20? Imagine if Gwin or Minnaar were in that.
How are the riders liking the new start orders? It seems most fans, myself included, don't think it's great and would prefer to revert back to something more similar to the old system where the riders are coming down in their actual qualification order.
Is there any other racing sport where there’s a qualifying stage then the actual race order bears no relation to the qualifying results? Just trying to understand if the UCI have seen this being a success elsewhere. Either way, it’s shite.
He crashed and didn't enter the course at the right spot. Due to some rule changes this lost him his protected status for the race. Seems the UCI is back at it's bullshit...
@CullenHerring: I thought that was the reason too, but now I'm not so sure. It looks like the UCI have changed how they select protected riders. For example, Bruni was protected despite not scoring any points last round and having the 61 plate. Fayolle also, even though he's ranked 71. I guess they must be taking into account results from last season to determine who is protected. If you look at the Quali start list Masters never had a P.
Four Americans starting in the final 10. Times have certainly changed. As an amateur racer, this sudden talent pool increase is something I've witnessed myself. Three years ago I was able to compete in Cat2 DH and Enduro. Now, despite constant training and practicing, I can barely keep up in Cat3. Its wild how quickly the riders have progressed in the US.
I get it, that they want us to see the protected riders regardless of their qualifying result. Makes sense to me and I even agree, that I want to see them. But if you'd just televise all riders that problem would be fixed. Everything is already set up for it. I just don't get it
A certain team manager from the yt mob tried to explain this at the last round and it still didn't make much sense. Sounded like an excuse to make sure gwin gets to go near last gaining better tv coverage, even though his quali was shit (for gwin)... then just like brook people like Greg W get pushed way down the order
That feeling when your average UCI Joe pretends to be a rocket scientist Next year, after a qualification, let a random number generator decide the order...
/leaving, going back to drinking. See you tomorrow.
In my opinion these rules were only needed due to red bull dropping the number of riders shown from 30 to 20.
a) Gwin would have gone down an hour before the end, not 2, and b) I'd happily stick another 10 minutes on that to see another 10 riders and avoid having these artificial qualifying rules that for me, spoil the event a bit.
Gwin did flat yesterday, and Gwin did crash today, this is racing not a scripted reality tv show.
Next year, after a qualification, let a random number generator decide the order...