Welcome to the 2024 Downhill Field Test. This year, I drew the short straw and risked life and limb trying to keep up with Pinkbike Fastguy™ Matt Beer as we jam-packed just about as many downhill laps as we could in the wet early season of Whistler Bike Park.
The real focus of this test was on bikes that are ridden and raced at the highest level. We wanted to establish what our pick would be of true downhill bikes—not long-travel enduro bikes, single-crowned freeride bikes, or maybe even
e-bikes without motors. In this group, we have a very mixed bag, all of which have already enjoyed podiums at the highest level.
While you might think that all downhill bikes are going to ride the same, or at least near enough to one another that they become nearly decipherable, that simply wasn't the case. Even though they're all thoroughbreds built for the race track, the variation in temperament is enough to make any equine metaphor very much justified.
So, what bikes are we dealing with?
The vast majority of our testing took place in the Whistler Bike Park. While you might typically think of the smoother, jump filled trails like A-line and Dirt Merchant, there are enough fast, rough tech and steep committing features - perfect for testing true downhill race bikes. A typical run might be Upper Whistler Downhill to Detroit Rock City, finishing on Naughty Hands. The trails have plenty of variety. That's not to say we didn't ride the typical bike park flow runs you might expect, too, but rather we knew what our focus was.
Henry QuinneyLocation: Squamish
Age: 32
Height: 183cm / 6'
Weight: 79 kg / 174 lbs
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @henryquinney Matt BeerLocation: Squamish, BC, Canada
Age: 37
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Weight: 170 lb / 77 kg
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @mattb33r While Matt and I are slightly different heights, our preferences seem to converge on downhill bikes. I, while slightly taller, prefer something with a shorter reach. Matt, while not extreme in his demands, is happier riding somewhere between a medium and a large.
All bikes were outfitted with Tacky Chan Ultra Soft control tires from Schwalbe.
Starting today, reviews will be released each Wednesday for the next five weeks, with a podcast discussing the group test at the midpoint.
Besides Santa Cruz already has a mixer Megatower, the Nomad. Fingers crossed they stay out of the high pivot trend.
Yes. They do exist. I’ve seen the DH and trail bike.
Raced against them at NW cup and winter series at Bootleg canyon.
DH is different cause the speeds are way
ore higher so the wheel won't have time to enter into holes...
IIRC Dan Roberts was a part of both bike's designs too, maybe that plays a role here. On paper they seem so close, I wonder how well that translates or if the sum of all the little different details really add up
Despite not having raced DH since the mid 90s (when it was a very different thing), and having 1% of the skill of a downhiller, I do love the look and tech of a downhill bike. I won't ever own one, but love to know all there is to know about them.
That Giant is such a good looking bike. Looks like a supercar compared to the rest of the bikes.
I'm not saying they did this because of the supreme issues but these two things seem to align. (x-files music)
Greta performing bikes in theory, but their track record as far as reliability goes has got to be the worst in the entire industry by far. Every iteration of the Supreme was prone to cracking and i´ve seen too many "weird" complaints about their bikes to ignore. From bad quality control to bikes flexing way beyond what i personally would be comfortable with.
It´s pretty obvious they have a great suspension designer and implement feedback from racers very well, but somehow they simply can´t get the longevity done right. This warranty is something that puts them into untouchable territory for me personally.
the bike is great - Bruni got great results on it
there are tons of reviews out there already and let's be honest - there are lots of new bikes not better than the old ones
it's all about - do you want the new bling? do you need to refresh your 3old beat up rig?
and it's cheaper to get a complete new bike with new suspension than just buying new parts
That should make all the difference
And coil/no coil
BTW. Windrock and Rock Creek are open year round. They seem like an ok place to test a bike. Why wait for Whistler to open.
the commencal always has prototype parts on it, even the most successful setup of the v5 wasnt included with the v5 production.
Your comment is void due lack of IQ.
"We are currently out of stock on of our first run of production DH frames. If you are interested in buying one, please send us an email and we can let you know when we are planning to do another batch!"
I think the bike should be included. You can't put in an order in for the Core 4 Tues as reviewed either. The Intense is also in pre-order status but at least has an ETA. Giant vs Commencal would be a pretty lame field test.
Commencal have always done that, they publicly release the base platform that no team runs because its always a prototype bike and in usual commencal fashion the customer always loses and played as a pawn to fund the raceteams.
The session for example, was ran in production setup for quite awhile other than Ochain, before we seen new seatstays.
Frameworks is a little similar but atleast you could buy exactly what was being run by the team at the time, its just out of stock.
What a weird thing to gripe about.
especially commencal stuff, I wouldnt touch that brand again, 2 seperated head tubes and 4 broken chainstays. Both me and my friend have nearly died riding those bikes.